Skymaster Forum  

Go Back   Skymaster Forum > Messages
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 03-10-20, 04:48 PM
cjordan cjordan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Ohio
Posts: 27
cjordan is on a distinguished road
I try to keep things easy to remember. 73 "G" with long range tanks. All give ~6hr range with decent reserves.

2300 23" to 6k 20gph
2400 full throttle to 9k 18-18.5gph
2450-2500 " " to 11k 18gph

No hurry, tooling around down low 2200 20" 14gph

They seem to like the 7-10k range for best TAS and fuel burn for longer trips.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 03-12-20, 07:26 AM
patrolpilot's Avatar
patrolpilot patrolpilot is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: South Texas
Posts: 312
patrolpilot is on a distinguished road
Well, the insight G4T has already solved a big question for me. My Cessna tachometer sucks. The only place it is accurate is at 2800 RPM, and it quickly starts to error short of what is being produced.

I've been running around with 2600 RPM set, but the engines are only turning 2400. That explains the angle of attack issues at lower RPMs because the error is as great. The only hard running would have been down low, like in the picture (2K) as the MP would have been high. That would not be a problem at my normal cruise altitudes.

Yep, I do monitor the idle RPM, and the check indicates higher than the book, but the idle was set by maintenance with a digital tack, and they have that just right sound. I never drew the connection in that the upper is limit is true.

My Cessna Fuel Flow Indicator is spot on. This doesn't confirm my next expense concerning my airplane, a move to the Electronic International Primary Engine Instruments.

I wish we could add inline images on the forum
Attached Images
File Type: jpg G4T-Horsepower.jpg (95.8 KB, 2652 views)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 03-20-20, 09:46 AM
Mayhemxpc's Avatar
Mayhemxpc Mayhemxpc is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 14
Mayhemxpc is on a distinguished road
Power settings

Thanks for another reason to get a G4T. Great picture. I had my tach and prop checked during my most recent annual. Actually it was part of calibrating the fuel system after that was overhauled. One were off by a little less than 50 RPM, which doesn't bother me too much as I am probably not that précise in my control manipulation. 200 RPM is quite a spread, however and I can see where you were having problems.

For what its worth, I have an O-2A and 65% power is about 23"/2300 RPM at 3,000 ft. That is also the power setting the USAF functional checklist says to use for post-maintenance test flight. Other altitudes and power settings are similar to what was posted by Ernie. The O-2 is pretty draggy and, to me anyway, the minor increase in speed at 75% is not worth the noise and fuel burn.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 04-02-20, 09:03 PM
hharney's Avatar
hharney hharney is offline
Forum Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Michigan (8D4)
Posts: 2,267
hharney is on a distinguished road
No claim to the content but very interesting formula


Using the Airspeed Indicator as a Fuel Flow Meter
Attached Images
File Type: png Screenshot 2020-04-02 21.00.31.png (893.7 KB, 3261 views)
__________________
Herb R Harney
1968 337C

Flying the same Skymaster for 47 years
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 04-03-20, 07:34 AM
Mayhemxpc's Avatar
Mayhemxpc Mayhemxpc is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Virginia
Posts: 14
Mayhemxpc is on a distinguished road
Airspeed as fuel flow

As everything with Stick and Rudder, very interesting. I compared it to the USAF Dash 1 for the O-2A. Best glide is 100 kts at 4400 pounds. The performance charts say best long range airspeed is 104 Kts CAS and best glide is 99 kts at the same weight!

Similarly, at 4400 pounds, service ceiling is 17,500 ft. 2/3 of that is 12,000. By the book, at 12k max MP is about 17 to 17.5 which is the power you need to get ~104 kts CAS! (126 KTAS) Seems like 1944 rule of thumb calculations for SEL planes were still valid 25 years later for MEL!

I don't carry oxygen, but the dash 1 shows 110 kt CAS at 8,000 still gets me 124 KTAS at 8.2 gph/engine. That is just a little slower that 12k at 1/2 a gallon more per engine per hour. But I can breathe, which is a good thing.

But...20 minutes longer for a 300 nm trip vs my normal cruise at 65%.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 04-05-20, 03:23 PM
general's Avatar
general general is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Belize City, Belize, Kiowa, KS, Breckenridge, CO
Posts: 67
general is an unknown quantity at this point
Aspirated = 25 Cruise all the time, 336, 337, 02
__________________
General Sky
Tree top Flying in C336, O2, 337A, P337G with IO-550's
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.