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Unread 01-20-21, 08:42 AM
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Maneuvers training guide P337G

Hello everybody,

As a CFI based in France, I came upon a student who wants training on a FT337GP 1973 (same as a T337G, pressurized and turbocharged with Continental TSIO 360-C engines).
I have never flown Skymasters before.
My concern is : would anybody have a link to a Maneuvers Training Guide for the Pressurized Skymaster? not the POH I already ordered on Essco Aircraft.

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This is one I didn't write, but I have used. I don't agree with everything 100%, but it does have standardized maneuvers with detailed instructions.

What don't I agree with? The big one is the approach/final airspeeds. They are WAAAY too fast IMHO. Vso is 60 knots, 1.3 x Vso (normal approach speed) = 78 knots. This training guide calls for 90 knots. When you operate from a short strip like I do, that needless extra speed can get you killed.

Its an editable Word document, so can substitute your own speeds if you wish:
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Many thanks, that will help a lot.
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Here's a checklist for you as well. I used it as a basis to create my own personal checklist:
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Perfect,
With all this material, i will concoct the perfect training!
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Philippe, great to see a CFI prepping! I've been training a couple of guys in my "mouth breathing" 337G, introducing the airplane up through an Instrument Proficiency Check. Here are some of the materials I use. The checklist has some items specific to my airplane. I'm working with experienced CFII-MEs, but they are not familiar with the 337, and we are always moving toward the runway for an IMC launch and recovery. I tell the guys they've seen everything out the windows below, so no sense spending time looking out! Maybe the material will give you some ideas.

In the latter half of the seventies, I went to the Cessna factory school for the T337G. I was flying one in air taxi operations and a standard G on a transcontinental pipeline patrol. I'm still proud of my training certificate!
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File Type: pdf 337G Checklist Eng Fail.pdf (36.6 KB, 678 views)
File Type: pdf 337G Profiles.pdf (60.4 KB, 637 views)
File Type: pdf 337G Speeds.pdf (54.8 KB, 653 views)

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Are Vx and Vy reversed on the speeds pdf? I don't own a 337G, but usually best rate (Vy) is faster than best angle (Vx).
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Are Vx and Vy reversed on the speeds pdf? I don't own a 337G, but usually best rate (Vy) is faster than best angle (Vx).
Thanks, I just reformatted this chart, didn't catch that. Should be good now.
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Hello patrolpilot,
When you come down in the Pyrénées, give me a call and you'll teach me more over the mountains.
Great info!
Many thanks,
Philippe
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Hello patrolpilot,
When you come down in the Pyrénées, give me a call and you'll teach me more over the mountains.
Great info!
Many thanks,
Philippe
I'd like to do that. Heck, I'd like to cross the Atlantic in 704!
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