Pre Buy Check List Do Not Buy With Out This

[JAG]

Not to bump the thread - but that incident in 2009...everything looked like an oil loss, but I do not remember reading anything about the props feathering. can an oil loss still be explained without the props feathering at cruise RPM?
Jeff

[hharney]

The ongoing Drama

pls see the snags list, its ;Enlightening

[kilr4d]

My goodness.

Dennis - What is the estimate cost for this prebuy???

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by kilr4d

My goodness.

Dennis - What is the estimate cost for this prebuy???

Hello John
the Cost to do the prebuy was 4000 USD and to fix all the snags will cost around 50 k USD,but u see lot of items are preventive maintenance ,for example Hoses were never changed, so they are 40 years old, its alone 6 k USD for both engine, although they are still good, but common sense says after 10 years they should be changed, although there is no requirement for the part 91 operators, Power pac need complete overhaul ,4 K USD, Brakes lines , 1000 US,aux. fuel pumps were never overhauled, cost 1700 each installed,
Fuel selectors never overhauled also around 1700 USD each , Installed
but as wrote before Owner reduced the price and for the preventive items , i will have to pay ,
Dennis

[kilr4d]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Hello John
the Cost to do the prebuy was 4000 USD and to fix all the snags will cost around 50 k USD,but u see lot of items are preventive maintenance ,for example Hoses were never changed, so they are 40 years old, its alone 6 k USD for both engine, although they are still good, but common sense says after 10 years they should be changed, although there is no requirement for the part 91 operators, Power pac need complete overhaul ,4 K USD, Brakes lines , 1000 US,aux. fuel pumps were never overhauled, cost 1700 each installed,
Fuel selectors never overhauled also around 1700 USD each , Installed
but as wrote before Owner reduced the price and for the preventive items , i will have to pay ,
Dennis

Well that's a lot of money but hopefully you will be happy and confident with the airplane for years to come.

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by kilr4d

Well that's a lot of money but hopefully you will be happy and confident with the airplane for years to come.

Yes it is indeed big investment , but look at the Beech Baron G58 twin engine price for the new plane ,which is non pressurised and not de iced, it will cost you around 1.2 to 1.3 million USD, and if you will have an engine failure during take off, that will ;BECOME REAL ;ONGOING DRAMA; FOR A SEASONAL FLYER WHO FLYIES, 50- 60 HRS A YEAR, so i am convinced my P337 With G-500, GTN 750, GTN 650, JPI 960, STEC 55 X A.P if manufactured today might cost around 2 million USD ,So its still a bargain ;-))
Dennis

[JAG]

Hose prices are a little high. Also, the way those snags are written up are appalling - it's as if the person writing them has English as a second language. They should be written as what is wrong, including any reference to the manual to support this. As a Canadian Licensed Maintenance Engineer and former Director of Maintenance, I would not have such a list as a pre-buy. You have to break down the airworthiness defects separate from the cosmetic and opinion defects. Just my opinion...
Jeff

[Ken MacLean]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Fuel selectors never overhauled also around 1700 USD each , Installed
but as wrote before Owner reduced the price and for the preventive items , i will have to pay ,
Dennis

Be careful when overhauling the fuel selectors. I sent out my rear selector and installed it on return. I did a complete ground run up at full power with no problems. When I took off the rear engine began surging at 800 AGL and ended up with a preventive shutdown. The problem ended up being the overhaul shop installed new seats in the selector that were 20 thousands too small and limited adequate fuel flow for sustained high power operation. It ended up ok but would have been a disaster if both selectors had been overhauled at the same time.

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Ken MacLean

Be careful when overhauling the fuel selectors. I sent out my rear selector and installed it on return. I did a complete ground run up at full power with no problems. When I took off the rear engine began surging at 800 AGL and ended up with a preventive shutdown. The problem ended up being the overhaul shop installed new seats in the selector that were 20 thousands too small and limited adequate fuel flow for sustained high power operation. It ended up ok but would have been a disaster if both selectors had been overhauled at the same time.

Hello Ken
thanks for the feed back, just forwarded your message to Brant Aero
Happy New Year
Dennis

[Skywalker]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

Hello Ken
thanks for the feed back, just forwarded your message to Brant Aero
Happy New Year
Dennis

Ken
could pls give me the contact detail of the workshop which did the overhaul of the fuel selector
as We could not find any and Brant Aero , did it in house, but it would be good to have some one who specialises in it??
Dennis