A word about western skymasters llc

Jhogan0101 · #1 07-01-19, 12:09 PM

Frank,
Im not complaining, im just trying to let people know how this guy does business so they dont get screwed like i did. If the gear that was supposed to be in the plane was there, i wouldnt have posted this.

Rick Erwin · #2 07-06-19, 01:11 PM

This is my experience in purchasing an airplane from Ron Lillie at Western Skymasters, LLC:

In March I bought N337K from Ron and my interaction with him could not have been better. The airplane had a few problems and Ron fixed them. It took a couple of months to get my schedule coordinated with someone to do an insurance required IPC/checkout in the airplane and Ron was gracious and accommodating during that whole period. He was nothing but kind, patient and honorable in helping get the airplane ready to fly home.

I’m sorry you had a bad experience in the purchase of your airplane, I hope you are enjoying having her though!

Rick

Jhogan0101 · #3 07-06-19, 04:07 PM

Glad to hear Rick, did he include the airworthiness certificate? Still waiting on mine. He said he would mail it because he couldnt find it when i was there. I received a text message with a photo of it the day i left SLC. Nothing in the mail yet.

https://ibb.co/ZdbKhxc

Rick Erwin · #4 07-06-19, 04:29 PM

I did have all of the required paperwork as well as manuals and logbooks at delivery.

I hope you get everything sorted out soon!

Ed Coffman · #5 07-24-19, 03:47 AM

You get what you pay for.

Jhogan0101 · #6 07-24-19, 05:52 AM

No Ed, i DID NOT get what i paid for.

JimC · #7 07-07-20, 07:45 PM

"i should have walked but i had a considerable amount of time and money into the prebuy [...] so i accepted his deal"

If you can't back out of a deal after a prebuy inspection, then it's not a prebuy inspection.

Here's another look at Western Skymasters: I just landed a new-to-me T337 from Ron Lillie at my home airport.

Is it the nicest plane ever? No, there is no $65,000 retractable twin that is the nicest plane ever. $65,000 retractable twins need work. Period.
Is it airworthy? Yes.
Am I satisfied? Yes.
Did something minor break on the flight home? Yes. It's a fifty year old bargain-basement airplane. S*** happens.
Will I be doing business with Ron again? Yes.

For those of you getting ready to buy your first Skymaster, here's a suggested order of items. I highly recommend not moving to the next step until the previous step is complete.

1) Go over all the paperwork you want to examine.
2) Agree on a resolution for any discrepancies found.
3) Get a mechanic to look the plane over.
4) Agree on a resolution for any discrepancies found.
5) Perform (or have a qualified pilot perform) a test flight.
6) Agree on a resolution for any discrepancies found.
7) Fix the seller-resolved discrepancies.
8) Confirm that the seller-resolved discrepancies have been fixed.
9) Close the sale.
10) Fly it home.

Don't try to do all the steps in one day. It won't end well. Buying a plane is like buying a house - it takes time.

For this Skymaster, it took me about 8 weeks from my first call to Ron to today. I found him easy to work with and I expect to do business with him again.