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Need Installation Manual for 400A Autopilot

Iím in need of the Installation Manual for an ARC (Cessna) 400A autopilot. Can anyone point me to that file on the web?

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Post Gonna have to pay for it...

All $26 of it (not free but still cheap): https://www.eflightmanuals.com/ITEM_....asp?mID=11021
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Rick,

DM me your email address and I will send you what I have.

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Hi Mark, thanks for the link, however that manual does not have what I'm looking for. I have the Parts and Maintenance Manual, but it does not have the wiring diagrams for the connections to the rest of the airplane that I need.

I appreciate your effort though...

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Thanks Kevin, DM sent.

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I have the 1974 avionics installation manual let me know which drawings you need. I also have just the wiring diagrams from Cessna

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Hi Dan,

I have ordered a 1977 Installation Manual for the 400A. If I strike out with the information in that manual, Iíll reach out to see if the information in your manual might help find the three wires I need information on is in yours.

Thank you for the offer!

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I have a paper manual for a system 400 (not 400A). Includes wiring diagrams. In case thatís any help or they share anything in common (donít know if they do).
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Interface to autopilot 400A - found it !

For the most part the autopilot is self-contained within its own harness.

For example, the 'Computer' gets continuous power from the aircraft through a circuit breaker. The control head switch closes a relay within the 'computer' to power it up.
All inside the 'computer'

I just recently got a full Avidyne suite,
and naturally wanted whatever autopilot capability I could get.

One of the mysteries was where/how to interface to a new IFD 550.

ANSWERS:
The autopilot gets its left/right guidance off the CDI.
It gets its climb descent rate by changing pitch on the control head
It holds altitude with an internal pressure sensor within the 'computer.'

I believe I found the schematic for that in the basic 337 electrical wiring diagrams.
Under, believe it or not, the AUDIO PANEL wiring.

WHAT?

The clue was the original audio panel had a DPDT switch to select 'OMNI 1 or OMNI 2"
It had two wires coming IN (for OMNI 1) that came from the original CDI.
As documented in the audio panel schematic.

I had the tech connect those two wires to the new CDI's similar outputs and PRESTO!
C'est voila!
Left right guidance from the new Avidyne avionics.
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There are five wires to connect to the autopilot controller. I am out till late he 15th. I used Approach Fast stack for my wiring harness. My GNS530W is connected to the 400A. I can tell you the wires to connect when I get back.

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Which model 400 AP?

I donít think my 69 T337D AP has any external inputs for pitch etc.
Except from the artificial horizon or small control head.

It may just be an ďAĒ model?

AP has the small control head center stack down by pilots right knee.

Control head has a heading bug there, as well as pitch / turn center and controls.
Also has an altitude HOLD switch.
Activates pressure sensor in computer to ďholdĒ altitude
At whatever pressure altitude present when switch is flipped.

If there is a vertical interface, that would be interesting.
Not critical, but interesting.

As you know 337 so stable, barely ever use AP.
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There are five wires to connect to the autopilot controller. I am out till late he 15th. I used Approach Fast stack for my wiring harness. My GNS530W is connected to the 400A. I can tell you the wires to connect when I get back.

Dan
Dan, Iím quite interested in your 530w solution as I also have 400A AP working fine in HDG but apparently not functional in NAV(GPSS). Look forward to your return!
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Ok, I am using an Approach Fast Stack hub. My 530W is only integrated with my NSD360 HSI. My Auto pilot computer CA-530A,

From the computer:

Nav1 Right is pin B
Nav1 Left is pin A
GS +Up is pin C
GS +Down is pin D
ILS/GPS Approach a
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Rick,

If you haven't sorted this out yet let me know what you need. I just went through this design stage for my 73 with a 400A and can probably help with any questions you have. I have all the manuals as well if you need specific pages.

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Thank you J, I hope to get into this part of the project next week...

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