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Unread 07-12-21, 07:37 PM
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Spare Tubes/Tires

This is a good reminder to carry a spare tube and tire, for the mains at least. On a recent flight I had a blow out shortly after landing in a remote field in Kentucky. We had to scramble to find one and almost got stuck there for days. Gratefully, another P337G pilot had a spare and his plane was undergoing a long annual, he sold it to me for cost. The A/P said it was the only one in the whole state.

Going forward, I will carry a spare for the mains. Am told the nosewheel is much more common.

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If anyone is interested, there is a brand new 18x5.5 tire available on Ebay for about $120 or so. Seller has it listed higher, but said in a message he would accept an offer in that range.
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I had an 18x5.5 fail a few days ago with sidewall deterioration just like you've described. I landed normally, taxied to fuel, and filled my tanks. When I went to taxi away I found the flat tire.

It was very fortunate that I had a spare tube - even though it's the same brand. I'm ordering more spares even though I know they'll fail. I saw your note to Aircraft Spruce - have you contacted the manufacturer directly?
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Talcum powder?

I was taught that when you put a tube in a tire, you cover the inside of the tire with talcum powder so the the tube can "slide" into the correct position inside the tire.

Its possible the tubes are binding in one area, causing the wear.

When you install these tubes, try the talcum powder trick. It can't hurt!
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Unread 07-22-21, 11:14 AM
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These have been talced. I'll upload photos of the tube later today. There's no wear on the outside; it's a manufacturing failure. I'll also cut it open to look at the inside.

Even if you don't talc it, the wear should come under the tread, not on the sidewall.

I found Goodyears for sale at Aircraft Spruce Europe (but they won't ship to the US) and here: $389!!!! These are bent valve stems; the Aero Classics are straight valves.

https://www.aircraftsupply.com/302-339-300.html
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Here are three areas of degredation on the same tube. Note the lack of wear on the exterior of the tube. The interior is unremarkable.

The defect that is completely contained within the ribs is the one that actually failed, although it's clear the others were on their way.

We could not find anything on the interior of the tire that could possibly cause this.
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Those pics are very disconcerting, to say the least.

Here's a theory, a SWAG if you will:

The damage to the tubes is due to heat emanating from the brake caliper. Say you use the brakes hard, then park. The caliper will be pretty hot, and the tube area nearest the caliper will get heat transferred through the tire.

It would explain the damage being on the sidewall, because that's closest to the caliper. Also, most stories have the tubes failing after a landing, when the tires and brakes are hottest.

Any other theories besides "Manufacturing error"? Which it still may be, because the tubes should be more heat resistant then that.

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