Flight Instruction and Recurrent Training

cessnadriver · #1 03-30-17, 09:13 AM

Hello fellow members. I’m looking for some detailed information on specific airspeed/power settings for flying a 1965 C337. I have a 1965 C337 project that I’m working on and would GREATLY appreciate these airspeed/power settings. I’ve been studying the AFM/POH and have found a syllabus on the SOAP web site from RTC but unfortunately it doesn’t give airspeed/power settings. I have a flight simulator with the Skymaster and I am trying to learn on it. But with out specific airspeed/power settings it's not very helpful. I’d like to know procedural speed and power settings for take-off, climb, cruise, descent, and landing. I have pour through the AFM/POH for this information but as you probably know the older Aircraft Flight Manual is lacking! I also see that there is NO GO AROUND procedures with both engines operating in the POH/AFM?
Thank you for reading my ramblings.
Sincerely.
Bill Story
SOAP Member

hharney · #2 03-30-17, 11:14 PM

Hey Bill

In my 1968 owners manual it states; Section I Operating Check List, Take-Off (2) Power -- Full throttle and 2800 RPM, (4) Elevator Control -- Lift nosewheel at 75 to 80 MPH, (5) Climb Speed -- 115 MPH, etc, etc

Climb. Normal Climb, (1) Airspeed -- 120 to 140 MPH, (2) Power -- 24 inches and 2600 RPM, etc. etc.

Your manual should have this info..........if not let me know

cessnadriver · #3 03-31-17, 10:18 AM

Herb.
Thanks for the reply. Yes my AFM does have these values. But what I'm asking is specific values such as in the pattern starting with downwind, SAY "20 inches at 2400 RPM speed 100 MPH"? Base-15" @ 2200 RPM speed 95 MPH? Final 12" @ 1200 RPM speed 85 MPH? These are the specifics I'm talking about. ALSO does your 1968 have a "GO AROUND" with both engines operating? Mine does not. Any thanks for the reply. I hope you or other members can help with these speeds/power settings and a "go around with both engine operating".
Thanks.
BILLS

LostKiwi · #4 04-19-17, 12:32 PM

Quote:

I hope you or other members can help with these speeds/power settings and a "go around with both engine operating".

this is paraphrased from my flight manual:

BALKED LANDING
Power - Punch it, Chewy!
Wing Flaps - up to 1/3rd
Airspeed - 90 MPH
Wing Flaps - bring 'em up slow
Cowl Flaps - Open

The AFM doesn't give you specific power/RPM settings for flying a traffic pattern.

I might be wrong, but I don't think any aircraft does.
It's always going to be different depending on weight, DA, wind, etc etc etc etc.

Leighton.

cessnadriver · #5 04-20-17, 07:23 AM

Leighton. Thanks for your reply. I understand the speed and power settings will be different for DA, temp, weight etc, etc. Since I'm only now starting to learn the Skymaster I'd like some BASE-LINE settings. When I went from piston helicopter back to fixed wing (airplanes) my Civil Air Patrol CFI had given me some target speeds/power settings, which was helpful.
Thanks again, BILLS

Mich3773 · #6 04-22-17, 02:52 PM

Hi Bill,

Here's the numbers from my type training ...

TAKEOFF
maximum power 2800 rpm
fuel > 100 pph
rotate 70 kias
accelerate in ground effect
climb at 90 kias
200 AGL flaps up
400 AGL gear up, set climb power

AFTER TAKEOFF CLIMB
2600 rpm
26"
90 pph
100 kias

ENROUTE CLIMB
2600 rpm
26"
90 pph
120 kias

CRUISE
2400 rpm, 23"
or
2200 rpm, 20"

DESCENT
mixture rich
2100 rpm
19"

DOWNWIND
mixture rich
2100 rpm
19"
120 kias
flaps 1
gear down

BASE
props full forward
flaps 1 or 2 as desired
100 kias
power as required

FINAL (runway assured)
flaps 3
75 kias

2 ENGINE GO AROUND
maximum power
propellers full forward
flaps up
airspeed 90 kias
gear up at 400 ft AGL
cowl flaps open

1 ENGINE GO AROUND
maximum power
propellers full forward
flaps up
airspeed 90 kias
gear up at 400 ft AGL
cowl flaps open on the operating engine only

You might consider taking the Cessna Pilot's C337 Systems and Procedures course. I've heard good things about it.

cessnadriver · #7 04-22-17, 06:29 PM

Mich 3373.
This is what I was looking for! MANY THANKS! I'll have to do some conversions on fuel flow/airspeed (My Skymaster uses GPH and MPH) other than that EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT! As for the Skymaster Association's Systems and Procedures course, I have the manual they give attendees BUT I haven't been.
Thanks again.
BILLS

rmorris · #8 04-22-17, 06:52 PM

owned my T337C for about 10 years now...but I'd try to go to that course if offered....was thinking the guy who used to teach it retired. But if someone wants to get it on the calendar, I'll try to come as well.
Anyone else?

cessnadriver · #9 04-24-17, 08:57 PM

Mich 3373. Can you tell me what "PPH"(for fuel flow) means?
Thanks, BILLS

LostKiwi · #10 04-24-17, 09:14 PM

Pounds Per Hour.

Divide by 6 to get Gallons.

cessnadriver · #11 04-25-17, 08:33 AM

Lost Kiwi.
Thanks. I googled it and realized that it is "Pounds per Hour" The first "P" threw me as we in the US use "LB" for pounds. No harm No foul!
Thanks again for your quick reply.
BILLS

spurlockda · #12 10-13-17, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorris

owned my T337C for about 10 years now...but I'd try to go to that course if offered....was thinking the guy who used to teach it retired. But if someone wants to get it on the calendar, I'll try to come as well.
Anyone else?

If that course becomes re-reality, I’ll be there - where ever it is?