Rolls Royce TSIO-360

[mshac]

My understanding the RR motors were all installed in the French Reims built Skymasters, which were built under license from Cessna. How one ended up in Canada is a mystery!

If you have to replace it, I'll be happy to take it off your hands.

Does the RR version have its own service manual, or does it use the standard Continental manuals? Someone with half a brain at CAA should be able to figure this out.

[california Sky]

I have the RR engines in my P model 1973...

I’ll look through my logs to see how they did it and report back.

It’s been awhile since I looked at how they did it for 58C.

Hopefully I have something that will help you.

Steven

[Dr.Dan]

Originally Posted by california Sky

I have the RR engines in my P model 1973...

I’ll look through my logs to see how they did it and report back.

It’s been awhile since I looked at how they did it for 58C.

Hopefully I have something that will help you.

Steven

That would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks
Dan

[JAG]

Dan - FWIW, I think you need to have it in writing from them why they will not accept the engine. Check what your IPC says for P/N, then compare with the P/N on the engine. I know with my 337A it calls for an IO-360C, and that is the P/N on the motor. I would also call Cessna next - they may have a Service Letter or SB that allows for this engine (RR) on the aircraft. Don't remove based on some Transport Canada Weeny (I can call them that cause both my brothers are Transport Canada Weenies and they call themselves that!).

Don't worry about Continental - the TC holder of the airframe (Textron/Cessna) is the one you need to coordinate with.

Jeff

[rrolland]

Frank:

The certification authority for the RR engines was the CAA (Civil Aviation Authority) from the UK.

Richard

[mshac]

Register it in Canada - Problem solved.

[Dr.Dan]

Originally Posted by mshac

Register it in Canada - Problem solved.

Actually that’s the problem. It has been fine for the decades it has been in the states. Importing it to Canada last year started this fiasco. We are still working with Transport Canada and the FAA. No solution yet.

DD

[wslade2]

can you just leave it registered in the US? Plenty of aircraft are registered owned by "holding companies" not necessarily geographically located where you, the individual, is at.

[mshac]

Originally Posted by Dr.Dan

Actually that’s the problem. It has been fine for the decades it has been in the states. Importing it to Canada last year started this fiasco. We are still working with Transport Canada and the FAA. No solution yet.

DD

I'm truly sorry for your situation, and I hope you're able to get it worked out.

The FAA CLEARLY stated in the VAR crank AD comment response section that US-certified AC were currently flying with the UK-certified RR engine, AND THEREFORE the AD must apply to them as well.

So if I understand this, the FAA will allow RR engines (at least theoretically based on their own commentary), but CAA will not???

So maybe maintain the N# registration? There are literally thousands of aircraft around the world that will never see US airspace yet proudly sport N# registration.

Seems crazy that the CAA won't accept RR certification from the UK, which is their controlling country. What they are are saying is because your plane was not built in France, it may not have a RR engine, even though both the airframe and engines were certified as identical. An interesting thing to research: Do they allow Continental engines on Reims aircraft??? My guess is they might.

This whole sorry saga is the definition of bureaucratic madness and ineffiency. The RR engines should be looked at as equivalent to the Continentals, and that should be that.