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Ron, im not sure why you opened this old thread back up, i guess its affected your business?

I would just like to correct a few things you said.

“ He, his instructor (a supposedly Skymaster expert) and the I/A went over the logs and test flew the plane by themselves with me in it. ”

So it was my ferry pilot who is a skymaster owner himself not instructor, a&p, and myself. YOU were NOT in the plane. Attached is a link to the video of the one and only test flight.

https://youtu.be/Y9q0g9kXWfs

“Furthermore he failed to mention I gave him a check for two thousand dollars for the difference in transponder.”

You misrepresented the sale. I flew all the way from Philadelphia, had to hire 2 guys, feed them, pay for their time and plane tickets to and from SLC, hotel. Items in the sale that were supposed to be there weren't. They were sitting next to the plane on your parts table. The first item was a King KT-76C transponder, it was changed to a KT-76A unit. I asked You about this and you put the 76C back in. The other missing items were “True Flight 650 Touch screen EFIS with Charts and XM Weather” “I-Fly GPS 740 with ADS-B in (traffic and weather touch screen GPS)” “Skybolt ADS-B out certified wing tip mounted system 2020 compliance” and the “Garmin GMA-345 audio panel with bluetooth connectivity” was not install but instead a Garmin GMA-340 also listing says “strobes” the only strobe was the belly strobe.

The plane was originally listed on your ad as $64950, then when we spoke on the phone you realized i was a new pilot and you said “that price is a mistake its $69950”

“ Right here and now if the plane is still airworthy and not all beat up I will buy it back for the exact amount he paid me for it.
Do we taste sour grapes here on his part. He made a mistake buying a plane he can’t legally fly and probably can’t afford to maintain properly.”

After i got the plane back to philadelphia Ron, there were so many things wrong with the plane that i had to ferry it to kalamazoo michigan to Griswold Aviation which is a highly recommended skymaster shop. Coincidentally the guy who runs this forum and is an expert in these planes who also lived nearby took a look at the plane and here is what he said:
“ Your airplane is in really sad condition. I was at Craigs two weeks ago and looked it over pretty close and I debated with Craig if it was worth fixing. You are going to have a lot into repairing this plane correctly. On top of that it really isn’t a good airframe to pursue all these needed repairs. I went back to your notes in the forum and if you paid what you said you paid on the forum that is a SHAME. This airplane is probably only worth maybe $35,000 on today’s market. I am so sorry you did not get the correct advice but not sure what to tell you at this point. If you really have that much into this plane then it’s going to be hard to get close to your money back after you spend all the money to do the required repairs. It’s a catch 22, keep and love it or get out from under it and loose a lot of money. I am here if you want to talk but I wanted to be real honest with you, it’s really not a good example of a Skymaster”

Ive dumped about $50,000.00 into this plane to get it in good mechanical shape and unable to fly it for about 9 months while it was being repaired.
If i could do it again, yes you are right i did make a mistake purchasing a plane from Western Skymasters.

Ron, you are not good people. You are the type of person that thinks everyone is stupid but you. I would place you somewhere between a snake oil salesmen and a dishonest used car salesman. Good luck to you and your business. Julian

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Parts table
https://ibb.co/CJJFBhm
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