thanks for the reply larry , I should have been more specific on my posting . I am looking for a project very cheap , maybe a gear up, maybe a deralict or a project someone has started a doesnt want to complete. if any one knows of something like that I sure would like to be put intouch with those pepole. as I already have some parts . if I dont find something soon Im going to sell the rest of my parts off, that I have collected in hopes of finding just such and airplane. so please if you know I would really appreciate it ,thanks Mike.