Original might be better
 

Jazzman:

You should contact Stephen Brown, the owner of N1ZJ... you'd do better by this bird than N403V. Why? Because it's a model year newer, has R/STOL, is plumbed for boots, has the ice light, hot prop, is equipped with American Aviation Intercoolers, a complete new leather interior and has a Garmin 430, plus original 400A A/P, w/IFCS and flight director, HSI, plus fresh engines and new paint. This bird has no previous damage history. I'll just bet that he's got at least $170,000 into it and he first listed it for $225K. He's dropped the price to $198K, and seeing how it's been on the market for some time, you might be able to strike a really good deal if the A/C is to your liking. I've attached a photo.

This is the bird I was telling you about that we'd bid on and I've been through all the original paperwork on it when Sacremento Aviation had it before the bank took it. I believe this '77 offers the most bang for the buck... save maybe for air conditioning -- "IF" you really have to have it. And who knows, maybe you could get her for less than the asking price.

What part of the country are you located?

SkyKing

Here's the T-A-P scoop:

1977 CESSNA SKYMASTER II T337G/P

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AIRCRAFT SUMMARY
Year: 1977
Type: CESSNA SKYMASTER II T337G/P
Airframe Total Time: 2800 Hours
Engine Times: 10 FWF-FRM / 10 FWF-FRM
Prop Times: 630 / 10


AVIONICS IFCS FD,Hsi,400autopilot
Audio: Garmin 340 w/marker
Nav/com Garmin 430
Nav/com Cessna 400
Loran Northstar/cupeled
Transponder Cessna 400
DME Cessna 400
Intercom Garmin 4 pl w/stereo input jack
Eng monitor JPI 740 twin


OTHER EQUIPMENT Robertson STOL
Strobes
Hot Prop
Outside air temp
Backup altimeter


EXTERIOR Paint Blue/white 2000XTERIOR


INTERIOR Seats Lite Blue/ leather 2000
carpet Lite Grey


ADDITIONAL REMARKS 10 HR. FWF FRM FRONT AND REAR
PROP 630 AND 10

ANNUAL 3/01

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PRICE: $ 198,000


Stephen Brown
979-345-6490 (phone)
Email: stb@Qualityturf.com

More pictures of N1ZJ
 

Another exterior shot....

More pictures of N1ZJ
 

And the panel....

jazzpilot
 

try this one on for size

http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprote...ecs/11785.html

The oxygen generators needed to be replaced by 01/02. Has boots.

Bob

Good price

Yep... another NICE one!
 

Bob,

I was looking at this one for a friend, and for the equipment and times... especially the boots & hotplate... this one is really in the ballpark. And I wouldn't let the front engine time be a bother. One could always do a top, if that became an issue. Heck, our '77 has 1225 on the front, and it's still solid!

And in case Jazzman doesn't know it, beginning with the 1976 model year, the rear seats 'float' on the side rails, and they can be stowed against the real firewall for lots of room. Plus, I see this one has a fifth seat.

Overall, a pretty nice bird.

SkyKing

Skyking / 337
 

This looks good. Bet the cranks are not VAR. I would throw out the 400 radios. I love the 400B IFCS autopilot. Mine works greatl. I like the steering bars. Looks like it is IFR approach GPS. Needs new ox generators probably. Glass looks good as well.

rear seats are a plus. It has the l-r tanks.

Wonder what the cost / hr was overall on this bird! hate to think of it.... Best buy that I have seen....


Bob

Other P337's
 

Bob/SkyKing, either of you familiar with the two P337's Bill Crews has. One is $94.5K, the other $109.5K. The $94.5K with 4200hrs seems like a bargain (that is prior to opening the covers!), and I believe is in CA. Let me know.

jazzpilot re bill crew has
 

You get what you pay for. Sometimes a bargain isn't a bargain.

With both of these they need radios upgrades. A very close scrutiny of the logs are in order along with research on engine's and props.

These do NOT have long range tanks (148) gallons and it is prohibitive to try and add them. One doesn't have the autopilot functional and that could cost 5-6k to fix. A new interior is 8-12K and new paint is 13-15K. Both appear to be "tired". Doubt either have the VAR cranks.

Sometimes high time is better than low time depending on the maintenance. There is another one out in the Channel islands (Calif) for sale but you may want to look closely for corrosion. Same with both of these. Logs tell a lot.

Without looking at the logs closely it is hard for me to comment on them since I have no first hand knowlege.

I have seen people spend 40K to bring one back into reliable shape. It adds up quickly. Here a thorough pre-purchase is in order. It gets frustrating when you buy a new aircraft and it sits in hanger being worked on for two to three months.... Enough said. I have seen a pre-purchase come thru with flying colors and the owner still spent 20k or more immediately after purchase.

enough said

Bob

buy the best you can, it's way cheaper. most mods and upgrades get discounted up to 50% when sold; whereas when you do it be prepaired to pay full price. (it's like getting instant equity)
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